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Job Search Q&A


>>So hello, everyone, and
thanks for joining me tonight. I’m Jill Klees. I am the SLIS Career Center Liaison, and tonight
this workshop is focused on the job search, and it’s set up to be an
informal Q and A discussion. So I really want to hear from all
of you and answer your questions. I have a few slides set up in here, but, you
know, this is just to keep it rolling along. I really hoping that you’ll
have questions for me so that this can really be an informal
dialogue, and you get your questions answered. Since this is the last Career
Development workshop for this semester, you can certainly ask me other career-related
topics as well if you’re curious about, you know, I you have resume
questions or interviewing, I’m sure we’ll have some time answer
those types of questions as well. So feel free. And if you’re interested in any specific,
more specific information on resume writing or interviewing or using LinkedIn, There’s
a lot other Career webcasts that I’ve done in the past, and I put the link
here on this main page here where it says find recorded
[inaudible] workshops. If you’re not familiar where those are, it’s
just on the Career Development tab, and it’s, you open it up, and it says Career
Webcasts, and you’ll find all the recordings of the past workshops, and the recording of
this workshop will be added there as well. As you know, this session is being recorded, and that’s where will have the
recording up on the next couple of days. Alright. So if you have, I shouldn’t say
if, when you have questions, go ahead, and just put them in the chat box,
or you can certainly raise your hand, and I will let go of the mic, and
let you pick that up as well, too. Yeah. Amelia, do you want to put
up the link for that really fast? If possible. So it’s right under [inaudible],
and it’s the Career Webcast page. We’ll probably get that up
there just a second [inaudible]. Amelia is my helper. She’s much better at multi-tasking
than I am when I do these sessions. So how many people, just a show of hands,
how many of you are graduating this month? Anybody? Nice. One person. Whoo hoo. Congratulations to you. So you’re going to be looking
for a full-time job. Yeah. You’re, like, yeah, me. Other people, are you looking
for internships or part-time jobs or what are other people looking for? Just out of curiosity. [ Background Sounds ] Internship and/or part time, OK. Graduated, graduate in December. I want to get, ooh, nice. That’s good, OK. So everything I talk about is really, you know, no matter what you’re searching
for, it’s all going to make sense. It’s all going to be good stuff, sand after you’ve got part-time jobs
[inaudible] internships for sure. OK. So moving on here. So why are you guys here tonight? Meaning, you know, what are your
questions about job searching, or what brings you to this workshop? What thoughts do you have about job search? If you thought anything right
now, go ahead and type it in. That way I can make sure
I get to those questions. So I’ll just give you a minute if there’s anything you have a
burning question at this moment. It doesn’t look like anybody
has a burning question. Oh, there we go. There’s a couple of people. Alright. So I’m going to give
you a moment to type those in. [ Background Sounds ] OK. So [inaudible] great sources
as to where to search for jobs. So I’ll have some of those up, coming
up towards the end of my slides, and then at that point I like, if people have
things to share with us that we can collaborate as a group and get some additional ideas. So we will be talking about that. So, Lauren Pia, Canadian, intern
in the States last summer. I met a boyfriend there. So visa tips. Oh, interesting. Do you know of the website
[Inaudible], International. I think it’s [Inaudible]. Am I speaking of that correctly? Does that sound right to anybody where
it’s all about international jobs? We have that actually on our website. I don’t know if, you can find that really
quick, Amelia, and put that up there. Yeah. I think that’s what it’s called. International Federation of
Library, something like that. Someone’s going to find it,
and we’ll put it up here. But that would be a good place to check. There’s also a website called Going
Global, and that’s usually if we want to work internationally, but you can use
it reverse for you wanting to come here to the States, and that’s got some
really good information in there as well. So Going Global, and there’s
another one, I can picture the book. I can’t think of the exact title. Where something about, I’ll
have to think about it. I can picture the book in my head. And, Amy, you’re looking for online work. So that’s an interesting one, too. We’re actually in the process of trying
to pull together some websites of more, of virtual types of work, but you could actually
do, use your SLIS skills, and do some research on some of those websites for searching
for virtual jobs because they exist. So that might be something very cool just to
check out, and then, frankly, if you find some, send them my way because that’s
something I want to start to compile. OK. Megan’s not getting any audio. Megan, did you do the audio,
or you can’t hear me? Actually. Let’s see. [ Background Sounds ] Let’s see if she did the audio setup with
[inaudible] and get her started that way. Oh, that’s it. INALJ. No that’s I Need A Library Job. There’s one for international jobs. OK. I’m going back through questions, guys. OK, Bertha. How do you make your resume look relevant when
you don’t have any previous library experience? That’s a great question. There’s a lot of things that you can do,
Bertha, and this, it goes for everybody. So you got to work with what you have. So, obviously, you’re going to have your MLIS. You can include some of the
coursework that you’ve taken. So you can list some of the titles
of the courses that you’ve taken, and it’s better to list the titles
of courses that relate to the kinds of jobs that you’re interested in. You could also have a section
on your resume for projects, and you want those projects are
coming from your coursework. So anything that you’ve done either
independently, with small groups, virtually with people, being
a student assistant, anything that you’ve done while you’re a
student, that can be included on your resume. It could be under projects. It could be under leadership experience if
you’re part of one of the student organizations. If you’re not part of the student
organizations, and you need some experience, you might even consider doing
that just to have more things to be able to include on your resume. And then, of course, you’re going to
get, you know, volunteer somewhere or [inaudible] an internship, but that’s how you
start to build your experience so that it shows that you have some relevant related experience. You also look at some of the past jobs that
you’ve had, and rather than really listing out the accomplishments that relate to a past
job that doesn’t really relate to the LIS field, you think about the skills that you developed in
that job that can transfer over into LIS field. So those could be things like
researching, working with customers, working with diverse people,
good communication skills. So there’s a lot of transferable skills that
we gain from past experience that you put on your resume to show how those
can work into a library setting. Let’s see what else we have. Thanks for the websites. [Inaudible], OK, and Amelia’s
on top of helping Megan. I found listing projects great [inaudible]. Oh, nice. Good. OK. Here’s another question from Amy. Is it better to do a CV than a resume? So, Amy, that totally depends on the
kinds of jobs that you’re looking for. So really most jobs, vast majority of jobs, when
you go to apply, they’re asking for a resume. So in that case, it’s best
to spend to spend your time and energy putting to a well-developed resume. However, if you’re going to be looking for
jobs in the academic setting specifically, and you notice that some of those are asking
for a CV, because typically a CV is only used in academic settings and maybe some
government settings, than, or internationally if you’re going to be looking for jobs
internationally, they often will use CV. So it really depends on the type of job
that you’re looking for, but, again, the vast majority will be using a resume. Sometimes you’ll even see on job descriptions
send a CV or resume, and in that case, I would send the one that does the
best job of representing you on paper. Alright. It might be Megan [inaudible]
I’m actually not sure it’s Megan or Megan, but, yea, you can hear us. So, Matthew, I talked about
the different, oh, it’s, well, really the difference here is
between the CV and a resume. A resume is shorter, obviously, one
to two pages, and it’s really tailored and targeted towards a specific job. So it’s more skill based. It’s focused on your skill words
that match the job description. A CV, on the other hand, doesn’t have
a limitation on how many pages it is, and it’s usually a summary of
everything that you’ve done. So that’s where you would include all, you know,
your experience, presentations you’ve given, publications and anything
you’ve written, awards, honors. I mean, it’s a summary of everything. So it’s much bigger, much more in depth. Alright. Looks like Bertha’s
got another question. Maybe a couple more. Thanks, Amelia, for putting those links up. Alright. Alright. Bertha’s typing a question in. So these are good questions. As you think of some other ones, keep them
coming because I’m happy just to kind of go through your questions during this time. [ Background Sounds ] Hey, Amelia, were you able to find that link
to the international jobs I’m thinking of? Is it ISLA? I can’t remember it now. Alright. So I’m going to move to the next
slide, but I will keep checking questions.>>I put a link up of, a little while back
for the ALA international library job site, which seemed like it had
a lot of your stuff on it.>>Oh, good. OK, good. Thank you. That’s excellent. Thanks for doing that. Here we go. Here’s Bertha. Is there a link to be a part
of a student organization? I’m not near the campus so I never
thought of doing something like that. Yeah. Actually, Amelia might be able to find
that one, too, There is information on SLIS web about the student organizations, and, yeah. Really, most students are not near campus. So you can absolutely get involved
with them and do your work virtually. So that’s a good option, like, in, on SLIS web. You could probably just type in the
search box student organizations. It’ll pop up, and then also think
of professional associations, joining professional associations because
you get very discounted rate as a student. So it’s a great way to get
involved, connect with other people, hear from professionals in the field. You can go to conferences, network with
people, connect with them on LinkedIn. So those are some really good things to
help keep yourself connected into the field and make some really good contacts with folks. So here, Matthew, I’ll go back for
the link to the past recordings. It was right here. Oh, actually, it just says, if you just,
it’s probably back here on the chat box, but if you just go to the tab on
the main SLIS home page, this, there’s the Career Development
tab, you just open, scroll down, and it’ll say Career Webcasts, and that’s where
you find all the past recordings right there. Thanks, Amelia, putting all the links up. We’re keeping you busy tonight. OK. So keep the questions
coming, but I’ll move along in the slides just so we
don’t have our lag time. Thanks, Amelia. Alright. So a big part of conducting
your job search is to have a clear focus, and that really includes part of knowing
yourself, which means your skills, your unique skills, your
interests, and your abilities, and it’s about understanding the value
add that you can bring to an employer. And that’s also going to help you when you’re
writing your resume and when you’re looking at the types of positions that might fit for you and will help you articulate your
competencies during the interview. So I guess really my question
to you guys is how many of you feel pretty solid identifying your
skills, your interests, and your abilities? If you needed to really kind of identify that
so you knew what kinds of jobs to search for. OK, good. So we got a couple people. Well, we do, we want to have more. So I think it can be a tricky area, right,
when people go so what are your strengths, what are your skills, what are you good at. We kind of freeze. So before you can really
conduct a solid job search, you’ve got to know what you’re
bringing to the table. What’s your value add? So there is, they’re actually, again, on the
Career Development site right at the top tab that says Career Development, there’s
some self-assessment exercises in there that you might want to take a look at
which can help you get kind of clear on what some of your strengths are. You can also set up an appointment with me. We can talk virtually on the phone if
that works or Skype or Google Hangout, whatever you want to do, and we can
kind of talk it through a little bit. I can take a look at your resume and
sometimes from that, or me asking you questions about you resume helps me pull up skills
that you hadn’t even thought of as a skill. So there’s a process that you kind of want to
start to go through so that get really clear about who you are before you can
figure out what you want to do. So let’s see, Laura. Knowing and being able to communicate
in interview is where my failure is. So that’s pretty common, I’m, and
I’m glad you know what they are. So what we might want to do, Laura, is set up
some time to do some mock interviewing, and, again, we can do that over the phone so it
can be like a real practice phone interview, and I can ask you some questions,
and we can practice that way. There’s also a great tool, again, I’m telling
you more websites, but it’s on SLIS web in the Career Development
section under interviewing, and there’s a tool there called Big Interview
of, it’s a great resource, [inaudible] or use it, but it’s actually an
online mock interviewing tool. So you can actually record yourself and show
yourself, if you want to, on the screen. Practice your interviewing questions. It will record you, and then you can hear
it back, or you can click on little videos of other prac, doing an interview,
and you can hear how they sound and how they answer questions. So I really do recommend that for people
as a great, just a great tool to us. So, again, it’s under that
career Development tab, under Interviewing, and it’s
called Big Interview. So that would be a great, great tool to use. OK. So, again, part of the focus,
one is knowing about yourself, but the other part is then knowing what
type of LIS positions you’re seeking. So there’s a few of these questions here,
meaning what type of work do you want to do. It might be a job title. Might be a work function. Maybe you’re not even there yet. Maybe you know some of the skills and
competencies that you want to use. There’s industries to consider,
and this was just a few of them, but there’s many different industries that
you could think about where you’re interested in working, and even the kind of
company culture that you’re interested in because that makes a difference as well. [ Background Sounds ] So these are things you want to think about. You might want to take the needed time before
you actually start doing your job search, and just sit back and look at these
questions and gain some clarity. Because, really, it’s pretty darn typical for
us not to take time to think of these things, and we just start to jump in to a job search. We think, OK, I’ve got my resume. I’m just going to look on the Internet. I’m going to find a few jobs. I’m going to hit the send button, and
then, you know coop, call it a day. I did my job search. I applied for jobs, and then we sit
back, and we kind of wait and we hope that we’re going hear back, but often we don’t
because our search wasn’t really targeted. It wasn’t purposeful in what we were doing, and
then it starts to take a toll on our confidence. So it’s worthwhile to take some time to really
kind of sit back and be a little more purposeful in the focus for your job search. [ Background Sounds ] Another thing that you could do to
kind of get yourself clear, too, is in doing a little bit more
research about what’s out there. Think about talking with people in the
field that sound interesting to you. [Inaudible] we call that
informational interviewing. You can do it on the phone. You can e-mail people. You can do it with people in person,
but it’s really starting to find people who are doing jobs or working in
places that you’re thinking about and gaining a little more information about
what’s it’s really like to work there, what are the kind of skills and
qualifications they look for in people. You can ask what the actual
hiring process is like. So it’s just gathering a little more information
will actually help be a little more successful and focused when you go to do your job search. It’s like spending your time in a more
productive way versus feeling at some point then like you’ve just wasted a bunch of time. Does anybody have any questions so far? Alright. If you guys think about
things, though, do keep them coming. OK. So another piece to do a
successful job search is to make a plan. So I talk a little about
having a Plan A, a Plan B, and a Plan C. So Plan A is really the ideal job. It’s what you imagined you’d be doing
when you decided to go to library school, but maybe since starting the program,
maybe you’ve changed your mind. Maybe you’ve gathered some more information. You’ve got some other ideas about what you
want to do, which is fabulous, but, again, Plan A’s kind of that ideal job or the
dream job, and it’s good to have that. You got to shoot for that, but if that doesn’t
happen or it doesn’t happen quick enough, what’s your plan B, the backup plan? And you can use this same strategy
when you’re looking for an internship or you’re looking for a part-time job, right. We all have that ideal internship
that we’re thinking about, but if for some reason we don’t get it, we still need to get an internship
because it’s super important. So what’s the backup plan. What’s the Plan B? So Plan B is, you know, what
else have you considered? What other things are you thinking about,
or where else might your skills transfer to, or what’s the other thing that
you imagined yourself doing? So think about, and you may want to
write these down for yourself, too. Just so you’re very clear about, alright,
here’s what I really want to focus on, but if that’s not coming through, I’m
going to put a little bit of energy into this middle column, my Plan B, and
then if all else fails, that’s my Plan C. If all else fails, what’s
the backup to my backup plan? When I think about that, it’s, like, if all else
fails, what is that thing I know that I can do. Sometimes people have that in mind already. Sometimes they know there’s a place that
people say, hey, if you ever want to work here, you know, you could get a job, and [inaudible]
kind of gone, yeah, that’s great, but, you know, maybe it’s the time that you go back to that. Or maybe you were in an internship
or even volunteering somewhere, and maybe it came to an end, but they said, you
know, if you want to stay on longer, you can, and you went, yeah, maybe, but I’m
going to look at some other things. Well, maybe the Plan C is to
pick that up and go back to it. So it’s just, again, about
looking at your options. Another solid plan for Plan C is to think about
using a placement agency or temporary agencies. There are a lot of them that
are related to the LIS field. Again, we have a section on
the Career Development site. I did put the web address this time up here. It’s right here. So it’s under Career Development, and
you go to Job Search and Agencies, and there’s a lot of good information there
on, one, how to use an agency, but, secondly, some links to different agencies out
there that place people in LIS jobs. So it’s definitely worth checking out. A lot of the jobs with the federal
government are going through agencies as well, and sometimes those are very long term. So, again, the address is here on the, right
here up on the slide, Tiffany, but, again, if you just go to SLIS Web, right, the
main home page, there’s a tab at the top that says Career Development,
and under that tab, one of the options is Job
Search and Placement Agencies. So if you’re multi-tasking right now,
you might be able to pull that up. No problem. I’m not good at multi-tasking
while I do these things. I’m always afraid something’s
going to happen to my computer, and I’ll lose my Blackboard Collaborate. So I just stick right here. Questions. Do you guys have any questions so far? About planning, making a or using an agency. Does anybody have any questions about that? I know quite a few students who
got jobs at least back in D.C., federal jobs through an agency,
and they were, they’re long term. Like, they’re two-year contract kinds of
jobs, and then they often get extended. OK. So another thing to consider when you’re
doing your job search is asking yourself some of these questions, and I don’t like people to
answer the questions at this particular moment because usually we’ll look at it and we’ll say,
no, no, no, and no, but if you are open minded about your job search and flexible, and
you’re willing to consider some other options, you really might just kind of want to sit
and think about some of these questions. If there’s other people in your life that you’d
have to talk about, talk about with I mean to see if these are options, you know, do it. Engage in a conversation. I’ve known several graduates from the program
who graduated, I will explain that in just as moment, thank you, Matthew, who
graduated and were doing their job search. Most of them, they were, they happened
to be locally here at the time, and it was taking them a long time, and
then they decided they were going to open up their job search to other areas. For some people here in northern
California, they were interested, they opened it up to moving
down to southern California. And then some people actually opened
them up to moving to other states. They were very open to it, and
they noticed that right away, it started to open doors to interviews. They were getting many more
interviews than they had previously, and I know of a student who actually just got. He lives down South. He just got his job offer for Kansas. Certainly wasn’t his first
choice to go to Kansas. He’s married and has children, but,
you know what, they’re going for it. And so what I’ll tell people in opening up your
options and being open minded is that that job that you get once you graduate doesn’t or typically isn’t the last
you’re ever going to have. It’s a stepping stone. So sometimes when I think about these
questions, I’ll think, well, you know, if I were to move somewhere else,
depending on what my life is like, could I do that for a year or two years. You know, would that be realistic for me? Could I actually do that, and then it
gets me more experience on my resume, I’m increasing my network of people, and then
maybe after that two years, then I re-evaluate, and then maybe I come back, or I start to
do a job search, and I look somewhere else. So, again, it’s just about being open minded
and thinking about what your options really are. So just with that said, I just
encourage you to think about it. So number four, Matthew, the portfolio career. Portfolio career is when people have instead of
a full-time job, which is what they, you know, usually want, but sometimes that’s not coming
along quick enough, they might pick up two or maybe three part-time jobs or
two part-time jobs and a contract or project here or something like that. So it’s pulling together pieces
to kind of create a full-time job. Some people consciously choose
a portfolio career because they like how that fits with their life. Other people don’t necessarily choose
it, but sometimes it just happens, but it’s another strategy to think about. It’s another option. It’s not always the first option that people
think about, but it is a viable option. It keeps people working. It keeps present employment on
the resume, which is important. It helps you continue to develop skills and
experience and keep networking with people. And so you may have a portfolio
career while you’re then searching for a full-time job on the side. So that’s an option as well. And it’s actually, if you
wanted to do more about it, you could do a very simple Internet
search on it and just read more about how people are doing portfolio careers. It’s been around for quite a while, and I just
recently read an article about it that it was, and I realized, wow, it’s still kind
of a thing that people are doing. I hadn’t thought about that for a while. [ Background Sounds ] Looks like there’s a couple questions coming in. There we go. Ah. Nice, portfolio careers is
your Plan A. That’s excellent. I think there’s plenty of
opportunity for it, I really do. Again, it goes back to just being open minded. Networking, talking to people,
being curious, that’s good. Y. It’s right. I think people do, we do it, and
we don’t always know the name. So it’s actually, it’s a viable option, the
job search starting, the portfolio career. I think it was R. Second and
full-time job sounds boring. Y. There is some nice variety
to doing different things. Alright. Keep the questions coming. [ Background Sounds ] Why do people obsess over
getting the full-time job? Well, I think there’s a lot of people who want, I don’t know if you’re asking a rhetorical
question, or if you really wanted to answer for it, but, I mean, I think for people part
of it is wanting some sense of security. Yeah, the benefits, that’s what I’m thinking,
the benefits, the stability, security. Yeah. OK. He really wanted does want an answer. Yeah. I mean, I think that’s
really what it is about for people. Sometimes the people are, have families. They really need that full-time
job because they need the benefits. Maybe they want to get somewhere where
there’s actually some retirement, 401(k). So it just depends on people’s
values really when we think about career development and
what people are looking for. Yeah, paid vacation, sick time, exactly. So let’s, just depends on
what’s important to people. Sometimes when people are
younger, they don’t care so much. A portfolio career is fine. Moving around, having the flexibility,
and then sometimes you get to certain age, and you want something a little more stable. But it’s good that we have so
many options for different jobs that can suit different people’s
styles and their values. So here’s some ideas of where
to start searching for jobs. So networking. Let’s see if there’s any questions in here. No, I don’t think it’s weird if you’re
young and you want stability at all. Again, it really goes back to our values,
and that’s something that we don’t often sit and think about as well, but it’s what important
to us personally, and if having stability, that having stability, that sense of
stability and security is important to us, then absolutely go for it. [ Background Sounds ] Yeah, health care’s a big one for people. Let’s see. A librarian recommended looking
for a job in the pool. I think she meant a group of
less experienced librarians who do substitute work for
other librarians or online. Do you know what she might
have been talking about? Yeah, actually a pool, at least from my
experience with the pool is kind of that, yeah. It’s, it can be substituting. It can be when they have a position to fill,
and they don’t have a person to fill it. They might go to this pool of
people and pull, pull, ha ha, pull somebody from the pool who’s there. It definitely can be [inaudible],
and it can be filling in. Maybe someone’s going to go on maternity leave. So it’s a short term. They might go to their pool
and find somebody there. I think it’s another good option. When I was out of graduate school, I
definitely got into some different pools at community colleges, and that allowed me
to, again, kind of have that portfolio career after graduate school so that I was able
to keep working, keep some things current on my resume while I was sort of looking
for the job, the real job that I wanted, but it was a good thing to do, and it still
helped me develop some more experience and skills. So it doesn’t hurt. I would recommend it. Well, it’s interesting. [Inaudible] community colleges. I don’t, I, let’s see. I’m pretty sure I’ve heard it from public
libraries as well, could have a pool of people when they’re pulling for the
sub, for substitutes back to work on the weekends and those late night shifts. Does anybody have any thoughts on that? Thanks, Amelia. Amelia pulled up, gee. You’re quick at pulling those links up. Excellent. [ Background Sounds ] Yeah, it’s a public and university
libraries both hire subs. OK. So both of those could have a pool, and they
usually only open up the pool at certain times. You know, if they have enough people
in their pool, they won’t open it up, and then there are certain times where that
pool gets low because people have moved on. They have full-time jobs. They don’t want to do it
anymore, and then they’ll open up the pool to get some people in there. And school districts have their own thing. Alright. So there’s some variety, but
that would be part of contributing to that portfolio career as well. But I think if you have the opportunity
to apply for one, it’s a good thing to do. OK. So back to some ideas for where to search. So you, hopefully everybody’s heard that networking is really the best job search
strategy, and I really can’t stress that enough. It’s not just about doing a job search online,
finding job boards, finding job openings, hitting the button, and feeling
like you did a job search. You’re not going to get the best results
doing that, even though that tends to be what most people do, and we
just automatically think about that, but oftentimes there your resume
just goes into a black hole. So it doesn’t hurt to look online. I mean, I do it, too, because it gives me
sort of a pulse of what’s happening out there. I get environmental scan of who’s hiring. What are the jobs, what kind of skills they’re
looking for, but [inaudible] really interested in a particular job, I might go back to my
network to see if I know of somebody who knows of somebody who’s working at that
particular place who might be able to give me some information about
what that particular job is like. What’s it’s like to work there,
or maybe they can get my resume into the hands of the hiring manager. But also through your networking,
you’re just going to find out about job opportunities
that aren’t even posted. There’s really a small percentage. Research shows it’s about twenty percent of open
jobs are the ones that are posted on job boards, and the rest are what we call
in the hidden job market, which you find out through
networking, and just a good example. I’ve tapped, just recently kind of tapped
back into my network of people that I worked with many, many years ago, and
it really came about LinkedIn. I was kind of playing around on LinkedIn one
day, and I found some people that I had worked with and so connected with them, and, you know,
then it was, hey, do you want to have coffee. You want to have lunch, and then I sort
of just put out there I had job ideas. So, you know, I’m thinking about
transitioning over into, you know, this area. What’s going on in your company, and
people are, like, oh, yeah, well, you should talk to this person, or if you really
want some help, I’m willing to help you, or, you know, people are just very
willing to provide information. So I would, you know, really
do tap into your network. So most jobs aren’t posted
because, let me [inaudible] network. OK. Well, I’ll go back to that one, too. Most jobs aren’t necessarily posted because
employers would rather hire somebody who comes in as a referral, an employee referral. The latest, the statistics that I saw
where they have a four times greater chance of having an interview, getting an interview if somebody referred you rather
than just being the black hole. So recruiters, companies, they get, you
know, hundreds, hundreds, could be thousands of resumes from people just applying,
and it’s hard to go through all of those and make sense of people. So they would actually, maybe recruiters
go through the back end of LinkedIn, and they find people that they’re looking
for for jobs, or as jobs become available, they can go to their pool
of people that they know and get some good candidates
before they ever even have to post that job externally or outside. So hopefully that makes sense,
but that’s, and you want to do, you want to use every strategy
that you have available to you. So I’m certainly not saying don’t use
the Internet, but you want to not have that be your sole purpose or
your main job searching source. You want to use all of your options. So Matthew also said I don’t have a network. How do I build one? So you build one by all the students, your
cohorts that you’re meeting in the SLIS program. You connect with them on LinkedIn. Professors, faculty members. You might connect with them on LinkedIn. You think about people who
you’ve worked with in the past. So they can be in your network,
maybe find them on LinkedIn. Join professional associations as I mentioned
earlier and actually go to some conferences. Go to some workshops. Go to some networking events and
make some connections with people, get some business cards, introduce yourself. That’s something if you want to talk more about
how to do that, I can, we can talk about that. I also have some past workshops on
networking and informational interviewing, which can be very helpful for you
to go back and review some of those. But you just start thinking big. You can think about family, friends, people
that, your friends know other people. Sometimes it comes down to somebody
that you bump into, you know, say you go to a coffee shop
close by, and you walk in. You see the same person all
the time, and you say hello. That person can be part of your network,
actually is part of your network. Because those are most, the random
conversations that come up when you sort of put out there something you’re
interested in and you’re looking for, and people always go, oh, you know what. I know of somebody who works in a library. Maybe you should go to talk to them. So I would just random things start to come up. So it’s really about thinking
big and thinking, I guess, maybe informally about who are
all the people that you know versus thinking this is this formal
network who are these people. So hopefully that makes sense. Is it really a disadvantage
to not be on LinkedIn? I think that’s a great question. So I have two answers for it. One is I really feel like, I feel strongly
about if it’s not your thing, then don’t do it. Because if you’re going to do
it, you want to do it well. You want to build your profile up because your
profile becomes an extension of your resume. It becomes your online presence. But with that said, depending on
the industry that you’re going into. Now I found that if people
are non-profit organizations, I found a lot of academic librarians,
younger ones are on LinkedIn. Older ones don’t even have a profile, or
they have it up, and there’s nothing on it. Public libraries. For all the people that I’ve checked out
on public libraries do, are on LinkedIn. Other people that are in the kind of technology
or business setting definitely is on LinkedIn. So, one, it’s going to depend
on your industry, right. But all the employers that I
talk to, recruiters recommend that new grads have a LinkedIn profile. Most recruiters say the statistic now is that
93 percent of them will use social media, typically LinkedIn in some
way to look for candidates. I know a number of people who have
been contacted through LinkedIn because there was a recruiter or
hire person looking at their profile. So, again, I think it’s another one of
those strategies that can be very useful, but as I say, if it’s not
your thing, don’t do it. I found it a great way to connect
with people, to build my network, and to use as a great source to research where
people are working, what their job titles are. I can look at where they
graduated, what their majors are. So you could use it, all of you could
use it to do an advanced search, you can put in San Jose State University
as the school, and you can put in library as a keyword and then see who comes up. It’s really fun just to see where
people are working, what they’re doing in their jobs, who’s hiring librarians. I have air quotes around it because there’s
lots of titles that don’t even have librarian in the title, but you can use it
as a great source for researching. So if all else, I might use it just for that. Will I be turned down for a job
because I’m not into Facebook? It’s a good question, Matthew. I’m going to say that it’s only
going to depend on what the job is, meaning if it’s a job that’s requiring
someone to be very savvy with social media, and some library jobs are because that’s
part of the nature of that job, then, yeah, perhaps, but overall I would say no. Facebook’s become more of a
personal platform for social media, and more and more employers are staying away
from Facebook and using things such as LinkedIn. So I don’t think so. It’s a qood question, but that’s just
my opinion, but I don’t think so, and I’ve never ever heard
that from an employer, again, unless it’s part of the job you’re applying for. [ Background Sounds ] OK. Looks like Tiffany’s got a question coming. [ Background Sounds ] So while wait for Tiffany’s
question, I’ll just kind of head back to some of these areas to search for. So actually while we were
talking about networking. Oh, OK, no problem. Do you have any other questions about networking
overall or informational interviewing, what that’s all about or using LinkedIn? If you’re having any questions about
those, go ahead and type them in. We talked a little bit about professional
associations already, but I really do recommend that you join some and get involved in
them as much as you can, as much as it fits into your life because it really is good
information that you can also include on your resume if you’re involved
in maybe a leadership role and a great way to con, network with people. Let’s see, Bertha has a question. In the topic of social media,
should we have separate personal and professional online presence? OK. That’s a good question. If they are separate, which you
could, you have to make sure that your privacy settings are really strong. Because if somebody goes to the
Internet and puts in your name, no matter if you had a personal or professional
online, it’s going to pop up, right. So that’s the thing you have to be careful with. So overall, the rule of thumb is to think
about whatever you have out on the Internet, whatever’s in public domain is something
that you would be OK if an employer saw it. I guess you have to think about it
like that, or, otherwise, again, you really have to have some seriously strong
privacy settings so that it wouldn’t pop up. Hopefully that answers your question. [ Background Sounds ] Let’s see this one. If someone introduces you to someone else,
how do you keep a conversation going after so and so said I should talk to you? Alright. Let me think about that. Well, it’s really going to be about
what did you want to talk to them about. So I’m just going to makes something up. Say it’s that you met that person at
the coffee shop and said, oh, yeah. My neighbor works in a library. You really should talk to her. So I might go, great, and get
that person’s contact information. Might e-mail that person or call them,
leave them a voice mail and say, hi. This is Jill. I got your name from Amelia. I’m currently in graduate school getting
my master’s in library information science, and Amelia mentioned that you work at a library, and she thought it would be a
good idea if I gave you a call. I’d really like to set up some time with you
to spend about 15 or 20 minutes and really find out a little bit more about what you do,
and I’d love to know how you got your job and how you got your foot in the door
and see what advice you might have for a new grad who’s interested
in getting into the field. I might say something like that. And so that really, there’s a
lot of questions in there, right. A lot of things that you are curious
about that that person can start sharing. So use, and with that said, I always
tell people use the student card. You can get away with a lot of things
by talking about I’m a student. I’m a recent grad because
people want to help you. We all remember what it was like to
be a student or to be a recent grad. So we’re more than willing to
share information and help. So use that as your card. Tiffany, who should you ask to
be networked with on LinkedIn? Should you really connect with someone
you don’t really talk with all the time? So it’s a good question. There are those people on LinkedIn
who connect with every single person, and then there’s people who put
a little more thought into it. So really the rule of thumb is
oftentimes quality over quantity, but for me on LinkedIn, anytime
I meet a new person. So maybe I am giving a presentation somewhere
at a workshop, and there’s other presenters that are there, and I meet them/. You know, I say hello. Maybe we chat a little bit. I get their business card if I can. If not, I write down their name, and then I’ll
go back, and I’ll connect with tem on LinkedIn. So I’ll send them a personalized message,
and I’ll say, hey, it was really great to meet you at the workshop last week. Thanks for sharing that information
on blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I’d like to add you to my
professional network on LinkedIn. So I connect with people. Or say I’ve gone to a conference,
and I have met a couple people that were sitting at the same table. We chat a little bit. Again, I write down their name
or ask them for a business card, and then as soon as I get back home,
I connect with them on LinkedIn. I have recently been to a panel at
a company, I was in the audience. There were some people on
the panel who were speaking. So I got their names, and then I went back,
and I connected with them on LinkedIn, and I just said, hey, I was at the
panel today at, you know, your company. Thanks so much for taking
the time to talk with us. It was super beneficial. I learned a lot of information. I’d love to add you to my, you
know, professional network. So that’s how I connect with
people and build my network. And then, of course, if it’s
people I worked with long ago, I’ll go ahead and connect with them. So, Bertha, you may connect with me, but
you need to send me a personalized message. How about that? Hey, Jill, I was on your workshop last night. I like To add you to my professional network. Yeah. So always send a personalized message. Oftentimes, if I just get the blank one,
and I have no idea who the person is, sometimes they are [inaudible],
and I will look at it. I’m just, like, I just don’t
know who that student is. Then I often won’t connect with them,
but if there’s some context for me on how I know the person, then I’m more
apt to say, sure, I’ll connect with you. OK. So we have about 15 minutes, and I’ll
just kind of keep plugging along here, and you guys keep the questions coming. So we talked about professional associations,
job search websites I’m going to get to in just a sec because I have
some more on the other slide. Direct employer contact. Here’s another question. I often forget who my former classmates are. Well, now going forward, Matthew,
be more intentional about it, or if you missed a person’s name, ask them. Oh, could, you know, could you get your
name or could, can you tell me your name or could you spell your name for me and then
go off afterwards and connect with them. So now you’re just going to be more
intentional about it, which is good. So direct employer contact is going
directly to an employer’s website, and just seeing what kinds of jobs they have
available, and, again, you can apply that way. Sometimes it goes into a black hole. Sometimes it doesn’t. So you never know. But then you can always go back and see if
there’s somebody you know who has an in at that particular place, and maybe
they can give you the inside scoop. That’s funny, Amelia. We did a group project together. So see right there, Matthew, you
could be connecting with Amelia. That is very funny. We talked about LinkedIn. We have talked about employment agencies, and do search job descriptions
online to see what’s out there. Even if you’re not ready
to do your job search yet. Start playing around with jobs that
seem interesting to you or companies that seem interesting to you just
to do that environmental scan. Who’s hiring. What kinds of skills and
qualifications do they look for? Do I have most of those skills? Is there a gap, meaning if there’s
something I need, maybe I can take a class in that area next semester if
that’s something I’m interested in. So it just starts to give you that bigger
picture which will be very, very helpful. Yeah, that is a great suggestion, Theresa. Joining committees. Well, I would recommend joining the
ones that are interesting to you, right. So ALA, of course, is a big one and a great
one, but if you’re interested in any other kind of particular area, if it’s special library,
law, you know, the law libraries, whatever. Archives. There are groups for every
area that you’re interested in. So certainly join more than one. And as you can, you know, get involved. I know we’re busy people. Do what you can, but, again,
it’s a great way to connect. So Sparta Jobs, how many people
have looked for jobs on Sparta Jobs? I’m very curious. Does that mean nobody? [ Background Sounds ] So a couple of people. So, honestly, there are some
great jobs listed on Sparta jobs. Sparta Jobs is the campus at [Inaudible] state
university campus job and internship database. So, and I get contacted by a lot of
employers with job postings for all of you, and that’s where I send them to, Sparta Jobs. So do keep checking it or set up a search
agent so you’re getting notifications, but I’m always amazed at the diversity
of jobs that will posted in there. Some are, you know, full time. Some are project based. Some are the short-term projects. Some are part time. Some will fall under the category of
internship, and the reason why that they’ll be on Sparta Jobs versus the SLIS internship
database is because they may not have that same level of supervision and guidance
that the formal internships need to have, but you all could still do one
of these other internships. It would be just like a part-time job. So really I recommend that you check it out. If you’re having any issues logging into Sparta
Jobs, send me an e-mail, and I’ll connect you with the right person [inaudible] to get that
set up, but don’t, that’s a good resource. I think it’s an undervalued resource. I’m just going back to check
[inaudible] some questions here. [ Background Sounds ] So, Tiffany, there could be a number of the part
time, like on Sparta Jobs, I’m thinking that’s where your response may be about that
you can’t apply for the jobs yet. Again, there are, they have a
lot of those full-time jobs, but oftentimes there will be
project positions in there. So you just never know. Keep checking. Keep looking. Even if you need to volunteer, do it because
volunteering is great experience as well. Alright. So here’s some sites right here. These are just a few, and I’d like
to hear from you guys, but let’s see. Do they have full time [inaudible]. Yes, they do, full-time permanent
jobs on Sparta Jobs. Absolutely. Lots of them. The California Corrections
Department was on there. No Cal, so those are some temp jobs,
but those can go to permanent jobs. No Cal is always posting jobs on there. Different libraries. Lots of different libraries. Public libraries, academic libraries
sending messages to post jobs on there. I’m just kind of going off the top of my head
with what I’ve seen recently, but there’s a lot. So really do check it out. So here’s just a couple sites. I Need a Library Job. That’s a great one. Indeed is a great site. How many of you are using Indeed? That’s a really good site. So do, thank you, so do add
that one to your list. Never heard of it. It’s not a specific library site. It has lots of different jobs on there, but
they have some excellent library types of jobs. It’s a very easy website to use. It’s one of my favorites. So in terms of searching on LinkedIn, I
want to make sure that you all know about, if you go to LinkedIn dot
com slash student jobs, that’s where you can find a
bunch of really great jobs. I was playing around with it, and I
was putting in different search terms. I put in library. I put in research. I think I put in instruction. I put in archives. I was just playing around with
keywords versus job titles, and I was amazed at the jobs
that were on linked in. I really was, I just was,
like, I just didn’t know if there would be those kinds of jobs there. Lots of them. So under student jobs are typically for people
who have one to three years of experience, and that’s exactly where most of you are at. So do add that one to your list as well, and
then, again, on the Career Development site. So SLIS Web, the Career Development
tab, look for job search, and there’s a whole bunch of links in there. Now I’ll tell you right now,
it’s not the prettiest site. We’re working on that. That’s a summer project. It’s all kind of not organized very
intuitively, but there are still lots of different job search links in there. So do check that out. And so what are your all fav, what are, you all. What are your favorite sites? Do you have some that you can share with us
because I like to learn from other people. Cal Opposite, good one. I’m going to jot them to you. We could all be jotting these down. Really. Got a job from Dice. I never think to go to Dice. Was it a library-related job? Because I would not even think about that. Oh, yeah, Ad Join. That’s a very good site. [ Background Sounds ] No [Inaudible]. So I do. I think of Dice as more technical jobs. But you see [inaudible] so you never know. So it doesn’t hurt to be looking around. You just never know. Anybody have anything else
that you’d like to share? Job search sites. Those are good. Alright. Let’s see. Oh, one more. So here are just some search
terns, and this is just a few. I had, I have many more actually. These are just [inaudible] that I put
up, but when you’re searching for jobs, and you’re starting online to see what’s out
there, we typically search by job titles, and when we search by job titles, we can
actually leave out a lot of really good jobs because they may not have, they may
not be under that particular title, but they could still be using
same skill set that you have. So try searching with job titles,
and then try searching with keywords. So the keywords could be these
types of words that relate to the area that you’re interested in. Could also relate back to some of
your top skills that you want to use, but try searching with two or three
keywords and see what starts to pop up. And then look very closely
at the job description. So the title may be something you’d
never would have thought to look at, but when you read the job description,
you go, oh, yeah, I can do that job. So that’s, again, being a little
more strategic in your job search. [ Background Sounds ] Is anybody writing some of these down? I don’t want to move the page if you’re writing. Buildings Nice. Of course, you copied it, writing down. What am I saying? Of course. Yeah, look at that. So your title was intermediate clerk typist,
but you’re part-time school librarian. So if you were just putting school librarian. Maybe that wouldn’t have even popped up. Yeah, it’s crazy. You really do have to diversify
when you’re doing your search. Alright. We have just a couple minutes left. Are there any last burning questions? [ Background Sounds ] You are very welcome. Remember to go back to the other recordings
of workshops, that there’s some other things that you want to review because there’s
a lot in there on resume writing and using LinkedIn and interviewing. Oh, good, you saved the whiteboard. That’s smart. That’s smart. And my e-mail address I will
type it in again down here. So you’re welcome to send me questions. If you need a chat, set up an appointment on
the phone to chat about your job search plans so we can certainly do that, too. Oh, you’re welcome. I’m glad that helps. And then, again, there’s some good resources
from the past workshops on using LinkedIn. So you might find those helpful as well. Oh, thanks, guys. I’m glad to was helpful for you. Alright. [Inaudible] signing off.

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